Why, yes… it is yet another Saber Lily

Saber Lily ~Golden Caliburn~

Saber Lily ~Golden Caliburn~

So, I found out news that GSC is going to release another version of Saber Lily and she’s going to be an exclusive release. The name of this version is Saber Lily ~Golden Caliburn~. I’m pretty sure those who have followed me for some time know I have a soft spot for Saber — especially Saber Lily, but I’m frankly disappointed with how GSC is going about with their figure releases lately. This one, is a major annoyance in my opinion.

Before I start ranting about how Saber Lily ~Golden Caliburn~ is such a major rip-off, I’m just going to say that I agree with one of the points that Tier of Tentacle Armada stated in one of his recent posts: one of the most annoying trends of 2009 regarding figures is the sheer number of exclusives that have popped out of nowhere. I’m pretty darn sure that the proxy services are quite happy with the sudden increase of customers and orders since most of the exclusives are pretty nice — or are just precise in hitting the weak spots of fans and collectors.

Within the short span of my figure collecting hobby, I can easily say that GSC/Max Factory are the ones that have released the most exclusives in 2009 among all the figure manufacturers — and because of the appeal of Nendoroids and figmas (more on nendos) or most of the time, of the characters they decide to create into exclusive figures, it’s safe to say that most of the exclusives have been profitable.

Now, let’s talk about Saber Lily GC (~Golden Caliburn~), from the minute I saw the photos, I immediately looked up to see my own Saber Lily ~Distant Avalon~. I had to look several times just to see that I’m not mistaken in what I’m seeing. Saber Lily GC is almost the same with Distant Avalon, save for the armor that Golden Caliburn obviously doesn’t have.

What’s probably surprising for most people is that, even though it is an exclusive, the Golden Caliburn version is a little cheaper than Distant Avalon. In my opinion though, it’s because there is less material used for Golden Caliburn, not to mention, the mold is most likely just modified from Distant Avalon — even the lace on her stockings are the SAME.

Here are some of the differences I found between Golden Caliburn and Distant Avalon (based on Golden Caliburn’s photo above and my own Distant Avalon figure):

  • In the Golden Caliburn version, Saber is actually holding the sheath rather than just having a rod hold the sheath for her. Seeing this, and knowing that the figure is called ~Golden Caliburn~ makes me doubt that they will include Excalibur and Avalon with this version
  • Saber does not wear armor in this version, so instead of gauntlets and greaves, she wears high heels and gloves
  • Saber’s face is slightly calmer
  • Saber’s ahoge is a bit higher — like an antenna
  • The inner layer of Saber’s skirt in this version is translucent while it was solid in Distant Avalon
  • Saber’s stockings in this version are solid, while her stockings in Distant Avalon are sheer stockings
  • Everything that was black on Distant Avalon’s base became red in Golden Caliburn

Besides these minor differences, the major aspects of the figure have not changed in the slightest: the pose, the hair, the BASE — goodness, they could have at least made a new base — I won’t complain about the sword since it’s canon — but, the way Saber’s hair ‘flows’ and even the ‘flow’ of the skirt are absolutely the same between Golden Caliburn and Distant Avalon. It doesn’t really justify this as another figure for me — it’s more like a “re-release”. I would consider Saber Fate/Extra version as a new figure but not this.

Although I wish that fellow collectors would come to their senses and say this is a ripoff, I know that’s too good to even come true. The minute Danny Choo gets his hands on a free sample of her, OH YOU ALL KNOW HE WILL, he shall praise it to the high heavens and not say a single negative word about it — then it shall hit the weak spots of all those who love Saber — and all those who just love to collect exclusives — and make them at least want to buy Saber Lily ~Golden Caliburn~. As for me… I’ll probably only buy her if I couldn’t think of anything else to buy — in short, I’ll just be looking at her thru photos.

I actually planned a different post to start off for this year, but this just couldn’t wait. LOL ^^;


25 Responses to “Why, yes… it is yet another Saber Lily”

  1. 1 Mark January 15, 2010 at 10:54 PM

    The skirt design actually reminds me of figma Saber Extra which I gave up for personal/financial reasons.

    • 2 Ninjovee January 15, 2010 at 11:06 PM

      I do agree that the translucent part of the skirt is similar to figma Saber Extra, although the form resembles Distant Avalon a lot.

      It’s quite ironic that you said the exact opposite in my post about figma Saber Extra ^^;

  2. 3 Toonleap January 15, 2010 at 11:43 PM

    I cant see any reason why I should buy this, especially if I already have Saber Distant Avalon…

    I could buy her only if all her clothes are removable or if She could talk or move by herself… :)

  3. 4 anonymous_object January 15, 2010 at 11:57 PM

    I thought this figure looked pretty nice when I first saw it, but you’re right it’s rather cheap of GSC to make it so similar to the original and as an exclusive in an effort to get more hardcore fans to waste more money. And the price? 9,000 yen? No, thanks.

    As for Danny Choo… he’s fun and all, but I completely disregard any reviews he does. He gets these figures for free AND usually the companies are his sponsors. There is no credibility in his reviews :-/

    • 5 Ninjovee January 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM

      I actually loved her outfit, but everything else ruined it for me… now, if GSC would’ve gave a little more effort in giving her a unique pose and a BETTER BASE *being bitter about the base* I might’ve started checking my wallet.

      Point taken there, not that he has much reviews lately… I recall reading a couple of reviews and it dawned upon me that he never says a single negative thing… if not saying nothing at all except that it’s nice and goes ahead to give details. I wish that he would give a more justifiable review so figure companies would actually know what to improve on. I doubt they would read each and every comment in Danny’s posts.

      • 6 LEon January 16, 2010 at 10:44 AM

        Nice observation there both figure and someone reviews. We should always wait for sometime before getting some figure especially when we know the possibilities of some coming figure in repaint or alter version. I guess only season collector will know that. What to do, we are always limited by Space and budget as collector.

  4. 7 Mark January 16, 2010 at 12:30 AM

    Remember the WonFes Miku figurine? CM Version? Absolutely useless. How about Live Stage Miku? (Sorry, Jovee) Same thing with a minor paint mod and additional head you wouldn’t even bother using because it’s ghastly. As for the papercraft… >_>

    At least the other WonFes items aren’t such a big ripoff. The Nendoroids contain the “weird” faces for Mio and Ritsu which Mugi and Yui have in their regular Nendo versions.

    That Winter Miku however is another recolor of the regular full size Miku. Just that the material for the hair is different.

    • 8 Ninjovee January 16, 2010 at 8:07 AM

      LOL. No offense taken with that remark on Live Stage Miku. Primarily was attracted to her props… but a while after paying for the pre-order I don’t like her anymore so I’m looking for someone who can buy her from me ^^;

      I do agree with you on all points about the last two WonFes Summer exclusives (the Miku figures).

      I think figma Ui is kind of a rip-off too… they reused the exact same bag that came with figma Haruhi (summer ver.) and nothing much has changed if you compare her to Yui. She could have been an extra head or a regular release if you ask me.

      I think the old WonFes exclusives were much better.

  5. 9 Iced January 17, 2010 at 9:02 AM

    Yeah, I think GSC is kinda overloading on the whole “making new versions of old figures” thing. ): There’s nothing really I can say that hasn’t already been said, so I’m just gonna agree with the general opinion that GSC’s been really cheap about these kinds of figures lately. I mean, I’m pretty sure nobody will disagree with me when I say I’d rather GSC make a completely different figure rather than just recolor one and chuck it out as an exclusive. ^^;
    I remember really liking the Snow Mikus at first since I missed out on the Petit, but after thinking about it, I’d really just rather get the originals. I don’t think they’re worth the exclusivity anyway. :[

    • 10 Ninjovee January 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM

      Well there were some exclusives that were not total rip-offs, but are still painful to the wallet — like Nendo Reimu, Nendo Theia and figma Saber Lily — the re-models are the most annoying ones actually. Come to think of it, all of the GSC exclusives for WonFes Summer 2010 are modifications one way or another.

      I recently fell in love with Miku for what she really is and not her character design… so I’d probably buy that Miku CD and have the puchi as a freebie and not the other way around… If I was living in Japan, I’d be broke by now.

  6. 11 Tommy January 19, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    If there’s one thing I’ve learned over the past year, it’s that figures sell based on the character and not the series/manufacturer. If it’s exclusive, it’ll sell out faster. And that’s it. It’s good business for them.

    It can pretty much be the same figure and people will still buy it because it’s got a different expression. Exclusives are annoying, but we still buy them. Not that I’m going to buy her, since I don’t like the original that much, but Saber fanboys definitely will. And they’ll even praise how good she looks even though that might not be the case.

  7. 12 Tier January 21, 2010 at 4:15 AM

    I will not lie, if she were wearing a lot less clothes, I would be firing off e-mails to my favorite proxy buyers with the quickness.

  8. 13 lovelyduckie January 26, 2010 at 5:29 AM

    I love Saber, I have a huge weak spot for her. But skipping this figure was real easy. She doesn’t have much going for her over the original for me. BUT GSC did get me to pre-order their Excalibur Saber. The exclusives I’ve purchased this year are the Square-Enix Sebastian, Volks Horo, and Alter Saber Maid (Version 2). And I think I’m going to leave it at that.

    Although I’m bummed I’m going to have to buy the Lucky Star FREEing outfits through a proxy…I’m really not sure if I should even bother if I can’t afford 4 sets.

    • 14 Ninjovee January 28, 2010 at 12:09 AM

      Sadly, not everyone care a lot for their money and would buy this version of Saber too. ><; although I do have to admit, Excalibur Saber is a very lovely figure and I would probably PO her too if I had a lot of money — which I don't.

      Well, IDK, you can always try to sew your own outfits for them XD it's probably time consuming and all, but it's practically the same thing. Another option would be to ask someone who knows how to sew to do it for you, or commission it from people who know how to make doll clothes.

      • 15 lovelyduckie January 29, 2010 at 3:05 AM

        It’s probably not too hard to sew outfits for them. I was considering that, but in the end I decided it was best just to buy them since I don’t have the skills or the supplies to do it.

        I wouldn’t mind having a Saber shrine like what some guy had on Kumo’s Blog. I’m sure he will buy her for sure.

  9. 16 Q February 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM

    Hiya, I’ve happened to have come across your page from anon_object regarding on the same thing. Sounds like that some of the collectors are letting off their steam now, which is perfectly understandable.

    Doing a few changes to the original item then release the “new” one as a limited… I am pretty sure that GSC is not the first company in my experience to do that, since Bandai is rather “notorious” for doing the same thing for the plastic models, more over for gunpla (Gundam plastic models). The variations are usually normal releases though, like just colour changes, or equipment changes, or just a few changes to a few features on the mech itself and you’ll get a new one. The limited ones are usually the same models but in clear colour plastics or extra finish metallic-like plated plastics, or slightly uncommon are just colour variations.

    Ok I may start to digress on gunpla, but going back to figures, it looks like that GSC is doing something similar here too, but for figures they are considerably more expensive to acquire, and the availability is nowhere near gunpla. This makes people who want them even more frustrated than the gunpla modellers I suppose, and yes I have fallen for a few of these limited stuff too like black hair figma Shana, black hair Nendoroid Shana, or more recently the Live Stage figma Miku (while I have the original one already because I like her closed eyes face). And worse I am falling for the upcoming Nendoroid Snow Miku. Most of these are just a few changes to the original and they can simply release them as some exclusive or limited stuff. Quite a pain for overseas people like us and those who really want them would have to resort to auctions or the proxy service etc. So yea such way of releasing new stuff is considered “cheap”, but the problem is that a lot of collectors will still go for them unfortunately because they want them.

    *sigh* Maybe I should just stick with gunpla and shokugans / collectable miniatures; at least they are much more affordable and their availability is greater than figures, or at least from my experience so far…

    • 17 Ninjovee February 7, 2010 at 10:03 AM

      Never got into gunpla so I don’t have any experience in collecting them, thanks for the input.

      I do know that gunpla is readily more available compared to figures… in our local toy stores, there’s a whole aisle dedicated to gunpla, and there’s not even a shelf row dedicated for figures.

      I’m actually a bit alright if the exclusives were repaints but canon, like Black-haired Shana figma and Nendo, which I also want, but as of now, could not avail. What irks me are the ‘original’ variations like this, where it’s not canon, there are only minor alterations and they put them out as exclusives.

      Then again, I doubt that the price to get a figure with minor alterations from the original would deter those collectors who have more than enough money to get them.

      • 18 Mark February 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM

        *points at generation after generation of repaints from the Transformers line*

        But yes, without a doubt, they’re milking the toyline, same way they’re milking the franchise. I mean, yes, Saber Lily is a really nice design, but damn, it’s been so long since the series ended. There’s other new stuff that ought to be featured. Give the series a rest!

      • 19 Mark February 7, 2010 at 11:25 AM

        And as for gunpla, yes there were a lot of Zaku variations that came out. But then, they ARE canon after all. It’s like if someone mods a Zaku v2.0 into a Shin Matsunaga custom, then there’s a market for it, they’ll release the MSV.

        For gunpla, I’d rather use the example of them milking an entire series franchise like their longstanding penchant for releasing SEED/SEED Destiny/SEED whatsoever gunpla which IMO pales in comparison to the other MG releases when it came to quality of design and build.

  10. 20 oneandonlyjem March 15, 2010 at 5:58 AM

    HAHAHAHA, I am so damn pissed off with Good Smile Company ever since I blogged about the original Saber Lily ~Distant Avalon~ release because I feel that Good Smile is a company that especially loves to market exclusives or exploit a loyal fanbase. Even then, I primarily prioritize exclusives because I quite frankly don’t like to deal with the bs that spills over once the figure has been released. Often, I’ve been lucky in being able to procure limited and/or exclusive items for the same retail price if not cheaper, but as a whole, I prefer to anticipate some form of bs and just preorder from the get go. Now, as a company, Good Smile is fairly solid and reputable, therefore this figure should not have any real flaws to her, but it’s that corporate driven and obvious money hungry mentality that really bothers me about them.

    Should this figure have been made? Sure, why not. Should it have been an exclusive? Hell no. Should the price have been adjusted to reflect the lack of intricacy or originality? Hell yes.

    • 21 Ninjovee April 16, 2010 at 10:41 PM

      Super late reply, but…

      Should this figure have been made? Sure, why not. Should it have been an exclusive? Hell no. Should the price have been adjusted to reflect the lack of intricacy or originality? Hell yes.


  11. 22 Radiant April 9, 2010 at 4:40 AM

    This sort of corporate blatant consumer exploitation has been around for a very long time. GSC isn’t the first to do this, but they’re definitely making it more blatant lately.

    This figure is pretty much a testament to them saying “We can release ANY SHIT and you’ll eat it up!”

    Eventually though, consumers figure this out, and it’s blogs like ours that point out the obvious to the oblivious, and cause change.

    It’s weird, since OEG, things actually have changed a little bit…

    • 23 Ninjovee April 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM

      I agree with you on all points of your comment. Although I don’t really see the remaking and turning into exclusive thing as blatant as this before I started collecting figures…

      It’s weird, since OEG, things actually have changed a little bit…

      Actually, that is true. Even if they did make a shitstorm, that shitstorm actually affected some of us. Even if it’s just a minute portion of the “otaku” blogosphere, it still is something since the internet is famous for letting people just ignore what others say. So I think this kind of change is actually good. I have to admit though, I did some changes of my own after following the OEG.

      It’s actually sad that they seemed to have died now. It was good while it lasted. I actually found a few good blogs that I wouldn’t have if it weren’t for them.

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